HomeMy WebLinkAbout2008-10-30 Workshop Police & Fire Department Facility and Equipment needs City Commission Meeting MinutesMINUTES OF WORKSHOP
DANIA BEACH CITY COMMISSION
POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 30,2008 - 6:00 P.M.
2. Roll Call
City Manager:
City Attomey:
City Clerk:
Albert Jones
Anne Castro
Bob Anton
Patricia Flury
Ivan Pato
Thomas Ansbro
Louise Stilson
Absent:
Commissioner John Bertino
City Manager Pato noted he originally planned to discuss these issues with the Commission a
year ago, but did not do it because of the search for the new Fire Chief and discussions with BSO
regarding a possible merger. We now have a clear idea of the Commission's redevelopment
vision so we think this is a good time to bring this matter for consideration.
Donn Peterson, Chief, BSO District 2, emphasized the historic nature of their building and the
investment they have already made in it. The size of the facility is not the problem; it is the
condition of the building which makes it no longer safe or healthy lor anyone. Chief Peterson
questioned why we did not make improvements while we were fixing other areas of City Hall'
He noted that we just installed a new 2O-year roof which is a positive first step to get this
workspace up to minimum standards. Chief Peterson advised that the estimated costs are $75 per
square foot for approximately 4,400 square feet.
Commissioner Flury asked for the cost for the repairs of the BSO offices.
Patricia Vamey, Director of Finance, noted the cost would be $300,000, with funding derived
from Contingency and General Fund Balance.
l. Call to Order
Mayor Jones called the Workshop to order at 6:00 p.m.
Present:
Mayor:
Vice-Mayor:
Commissioners:
3. BSO Facilities Issues
Commissioner Flury noted this is not a major project, and we all know this is a run-down
building. She questioned why we are discussing this issue now, as opposed to during the budget
process.
City Manager Pato responded we had a new Fire Chief coming on board, and he did not feel like
discussing it. He noted that regarding the BSO offices, it would not have made a difference to
bring it up because the Commission has never been interested in it. City Manager Pato stated
that the Commission did not give him direction to place this matter in the budget.
Vice-Mayor Castro was in favor of the repairs.
Chief Peterson noted the Fire Prevention Services offices were not included in the cost of the
repairs for the BSO facility.
Vice-Mayor Castro would like to see a total breakdown of all costs for the repairs. She thought
the price was too low for what we are proposing to do.
Chief Peterson would like the renovation to be a project we will be proud of, not a band-aid
approach.
Commissioner Anton supported the renovation for the BSO building, including Fire Prevention.
He was concemed with the cost, and suggested the Public Services Department obtain the quotes
because this is their area of expertise. Commissioner Anton thought they could also determine
what type of work could be done in-house.
Chief Peterson noted we should address the ADA issue for the calwalk on the second floor
Commissioner Anton was also disappointed that we did not discuss this issue during the budget
process.
City Manager Pato commented that he checked with experts and the cost for the repairs is
accurate, minus the repairs to Fire Prevention. He noted that if the catwalk is completed, it may
trigger some ADA issues that would need to be addressed, so we may not want to do that. City
Manager Pato said that when we looked at the Master PIan for City Hatl/Library we originally
included BSO, however we removed them from the campus at the direction ol the City
Commission. City Manager Pato noted for the record, that we have discussed this issue on many
occasions.
Mayor Jones questioned where BSO would be housed during the renovation. He was concemed
with the separation and not being able to provide services that our community is used to having.
Chief Peterson responded that they would temporarily relocate the investigative components to a
nearby district, at no cost. The Administration office will relocate to the 803 Sub-Station, also at
no cost. He advised that there would be no occupants at City Hall and a notice would be placed
outside the windows for notification to the public. Chief Peterson acknowledged that he could
handle the separation of his staff on a temporary basis, but not for the long term. He confirmed
Minutes of Workshop 2
Dania Beach City Commission
Police and Fire Department Facility and Equipment Needs
Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
that a CSA would be at the reception area in the Atrium at City Hall to direct citizens in need of
police services to the appropriate location. Chief Peterson confirmed their current office hours
are '7:00 a.m. to I 0:00 p.m.
The consensus of the Commission was to have Director Orlando bring forward a proposal for the
repairs.
City Manager Pato noted he had an updated figure including the Fire Prevention offices which
would bring the cost closer to $400,000, at approximately $75l$80 per square foot.
Commissioner Anton noted this project needs to move forward as quickly as possible.
Chief Peterson thanked the Commission for their support on this project, and their concem for
the employees in his department.
Patricia Vamey, Director of Finance, noted the backup information in the packet provided
funding sources and details on how expenses would be allocated. She indicated that the City
would need to borrow $3.15M over a five-year period, in order to fund the requests of the Fire
Department.
Commissioner Anton noted we need to provide our employees with a proper workplace. He
questioned why we did not do the roof repairs when the other roofs were done. Commissioner
Anton also asked why work orders were not submitted for repairs to the training tower. He
questioned the safety of the medical supplies that are in the storage area which is infested with
rodents and insects. Commissioner Anton supported the roof and the tower, and would like to
see the apparatus prioritized. However, due to budget constraints, he suggested we try to get a
year or two out ofthe equipment before we make new purchases.
Minutes of Workshop 3
Dania Beach City Commission
Police and Fire Deparlment Facility and Equipment Needs
Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
4. Fire Deparlment Equipment Needs
Jack McCartt, Fire Chief, presented a PowerPoint overview, which is attached to and
incorporated into these minutes. He noted that the City of Dania Beach Fire Department
operates very efficiently with dedicated firefighters who work hard for our community.
However, within the next two years, they will be l-acing significant operational issues that will
affect maintenance costs, response capability during disasters, and eventually the City's
Insurance Service Office (ISO) rating. Chief McCartt pointed out that we are currently a Class 4,
but if we do not upgrade our equipment, our ISO rating would come down. He indicated it is
very possible to bring our rating to a Class 2, with the proposed recommendations. Chief
McCartt briefly explained the methods and formulas utilized by ISO to determine the rating. He
noted most of our vehicles are over 10 years old, in need of repairs, and cost a lot to maintain.
Chief McCartt also stated that the Training Tower can no longer be used until it is repaired. He
concluded that we could reduce the costs to the taxpayers, by reducing our Fire Insurance
classification with a very modest increase in the Fire Assessment fees.
Chief McCartt pointed out that work orders for the roof were sent to Public Services, they came
several times but finally Director Orlando advised that the roof needed to be replaced. He noted
the medical storage facility is a priority, but he is concemed about relocating the supplies. He
indicated the cost estimate to remove the pump is a minimum of $30,000, which is a waste of
money lor a 20 year old vehicle. Chief McCartt noted that it takes l2- l 8 months to get a new
fire vehicle into service. He said that ilthe Commission accepts his recommendation, he would
like to order the fire engine as soon as possible.
Director Vamey noted the replacement olthe fire vehicles is not included in this year's budget or
in the 5-Year CIP Plan.
Commissioner Flury understood that all these items were necessary. She was concerned with
using our Contingency Fund and asked to have a report on how much we have left.
Commissioner Flury asked the Finance Director if we would need to issue a bond for $3.1M.
Director Vamey confirmed we would need to do this within a 4-year period, but she would issue
the bond in increments, not all at once.
Commissioner Flury noted that the City will need to put money into both Pension Funds next
year and the money will come from Contingency. She was concemed that we would lose our
bond rating.
Director Vamey noted we would have to pay high interest rates, and we would also have to
purchase bond insurance.
Commissioner Flury thought we should prioritize our needs in order to allow time for
improvement of the economic cycle. She was concemed with our declining revenue, and lower
bond rating.
Director Varney noted that not funding GASB 45 in futl will lower our rating. She advised that
the lower our bond rating is, the harder it gets for us to borrow money.
Fu(her discussion followed among the Commission, Finance Director Vamey and City Manager
Pato regarding the proposed parking garage at the 109 Park property and whether or not it would
be a loan.
City Manager Pato noted that we are still negotiating with Broward County; however, assuming
it would be a loan, it would need to be booked as a liability.
Vice-Mayor Castro complimented Fire Chiel McCartt and his staff for a very comprehensive
report. She confirmed that approximately $500,000-$600,000 is coming out annually from the
General Fund; therefore the costs presented today for the assessments will be higher. Vice-
Mayor Castro would also like to see a priority list for the items presented. She indicated that the
cost for the storage facility was high, and could be reduced. Vice-Mayor Castro thought we
should re-evaluate the costs as we come closer to the project. She remarked that we need to
Minutes of Workshop 4
Dania Beach City Commission
Police and Fire Department Facility and Equipment Needs
Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
watch the City's financial picture, and keeping our bond rating in good shape is very important
lor our filture borrowing needs.
Commissioner Anton noted that the former Fire Chief indicated that we did not have the
essential personnel for the department. He questioned if we would have the necessary stalT !o
man the new equipment being discussed tonight. Commissioner Anton asked Chief McCartt to
address this issue in his priority Iist.
Chiel Mccartt noted that ISO requires six people on an apparatus. He advised we could apply
for a federal grant to subsidize additional staff.
Commissioner Anton was interested in the available funding for additional staff. He also
suggested there may be grant opportunities from Homeland Security due to our proximity to the
Airport and Port.
Chiel McCartt noted that he would pursue grant opportunities, and he would not spend taxpayer
dollars that were not necessary.
Commissioner Flury suggested the Commission approve the first year funding as presented by
the Finance Director in order to move forward.
City Manager Pato clarified that the issues discussed tonight have been discussed for the past
three years and were not suddenly sprung on this Commission. He commended both BSO Chief
Peterson and Fire Chief McCartt for their presentations. City Manager Pato thanked the
Commission for their support.
Mayor Jones suggested we could find someone who wants to work, and could do some of the
work at a lower cost. He suggested the Commission look at establishing a ftmd for future repairs
in the different depar:tments.
Mayor Jones suggested the old equipment has a residual value and should be included in the cost
estimates. He noted the City has a Grant Advisory Board which could help the Fire Department
search for grants.
Chief McCartt noted in the three months that he has been with the City we have already applied
for four different grants.
Mayor Jones supported the roofand training tower repairs as well as the equipment needs.
Minutes of Workshop 5
Dania Beach City Commission
Police and Fire Department Facility and Equipment Needs
Thursday, October 30,2008 6:00 p.m.
Commissioner Anton supported the roof, training tower, storage facility, and moving forward
with the fire engine, which needs to be ordered as soon as possible. He would like to spend
money to refurbish the pumper so that it can be a backup unit. Commissioner Anton also
supported the air conditioner for the apparatus and the cleaning of the fungus and general
maintenance.
5. Adjoumment
Mayor Jones adjoumed the Workshop at 7:53 p.m.
ATTEST:CITY OF DANIA BEACH
ALBERT C. JO
MAYOR.COMMISSIONER
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LOUISE STILSON, CMC
CITY CLERK
Approved: November 10, 2008
Minutes of Workshop 6
Dania Beach City Commission
Police and Fire Department Facility and Equipment Needs
Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 6:00 p.m.
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Fire Department
Facilities and Equipment Report
Objectives
. Provide the Commission with Background. Provide a current report on the status of
the Fire Oepartment Facilities and
Equipment
. Oiscuss the future needs. Discuss funding requirements and options
Background
lnitial assessment upon aniving
Memo to City Manager
Directed to prepare detailed assessment
- Reviewed Budget, CIP
- Detailed lnspeclion of FacilitievEquipment
- Contacted lnsurance Service Offce
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What has Changed?
Development within the City
. Taller buildings
rso
. Change in frequency ofevaluations
Equipment
. Technology
lnformation on the
lnsurance Service Office
(lSO) Rating system
. Rating system
. Currently a PC 4
. Last rating in 2003
. ISO moving to a 3-5 year rating
. Determines fire insurance rates
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Return on lnvestment (ROl)
lnvestments already made
- Water System
- Relocation of Fire Station 93
- Dispatch Services allowing AutomaticAid
- Business lnspections
- Hydrant Testing
- Personnel Training lmprovements
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Comparison of Fire lnsurance Rates
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Example of ISO Rating Effect on
Fire lnsurance Rates
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Pierce Pumper 216
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. ln seNice since 1987. 60.407 miles. $1339.59 in repairs
since 7/30/08. Failed pump test in
August 2008. No longer in service
Pierce 50'Squi( 224
ln service since '1994
53,760 miles
3,457 aerial hours
$12,883.42 in repairs
since 3l2Ol2OO7
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Freightliner Rescue 226
Freightliner Rescue 227
ln service since 1996
121,000 miles
$3,831.63 in repairs
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. ln service since 1995. '116.884 miles. 55,695.91 in repairs
since 5/16/07
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Pierce Quantam 231
ln service since '1997
189,417 miles
$2'1,596 in repairs
since 05/07/07
Primary engine for 1
zone
Freightliner Rescue 232
ln service since 1999
131,000 miles
$4,145.60 in repairs
since O3l22lO7
232 is a first line
rescue truck for 93
zone.
Sterling Rescue 238
ln service since 2002
93,530 miles
$'15,086.48 in repairs
since 03/30/07
238 is a back up
rescue unit that is
frequently in service
due to the primary
unit in need of repair.
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Pierce Arrow XT 241
. ln service since 2005. 36.041Miles
Freightliner Rescue 242
. ln seNice since 2007
' 28,000 miles. Rescue 242 is an
excellent unit
provjding sufficient
storage and updated
technology.. ln need of infection
control system
Jeep Cherokee 230
ln service since 1 997
59,431 miles
Pot/ver steering needs to be replaced and serviced
Hand laght is not on bracket because it drains the battery
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Ford Ranger 235
. ln seNice since 2000. 89,230 Miles
Chevy Suburban
. 66.611 miles
Training Tower
Railings need to be replaced
Doors need to be updated
Standpipe system needs to be serviced and
painted
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Oxygen Cascade
The cufient system uses
a cascade to
progressively fr ll smaller
Orygefl Cylindels This
is a time consuming
process and results in
about a 20% residual left
in the cascade This
results rn essentially a
20% increased cost
. Background. ISO ratings and cost
. Funding Options
. Presented a study of the Fire Department
equipment and facility needs
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Summary
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oPERTY S€ARCH i sENioR ciTizENs I HoMESIEAD & OTHER EXEMPTIONS ]cME BUYER.S TAx ESTIIII,AIoR
2008 Final Fire Adopted Rates
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