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HomeMy WebLinkAbout86402 - MINUTES - City Commission MINUTES, OF REGULAR MEETING, CITY COMMISSION, CITY OF DANIA, FLORIDA HELD APRIL 6, 1964. The City Commission of the City of Dania, Florida met in Regular Session in the Commission Room at the City Hall. PRESENT WERE: MAYOR-OOMMISSIONER VERA L. HILL COMMISSIONERS R. L. GRAMMER 0 VIRGIL L. TARPLEY S. ELL IS YOUNG CITY MANAGER LESTER E. CULVERSON CITY ATTORNEY CLARKE WALDEN CHIEF OF POLICE MONTIE F. SMITH CITY CLERK MARY THORNHILL Commissioner Thornton called from Hialeah and asked 6 be excused from the meeting. The meeting was called to order at 8:00 o'clock P.M. by Mayor Hill, after which Pledge of Allegiance to the flag and invocation was held. Minutes of meetings held March 16 and 18 were read. A motion was made by Commissioner Young minutes be approved as read. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, the $ Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (1) Ordinance: Authorizing the Building Inspector to issue building permits where all ordinances of the City of Dania are complied with, and without having to be approved by the Zoning Board and the: City Commission. Commissioner Grammer advised that Mr. Lindeman felt no action should be taken until a decision is made regarding off-street parking. A motion was made by Commissioner Grammer that the matter be tabled until all details are worked out. - The motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer ' Yes s.: Tarpley Yes , Young Yes Hill Yes (2) Application for transfer 4 COP License from Clyde F. Grampa to Elizabeth Sessa. Dania .Bar, 1435 South Federal Highway. Approved by Chief Smith. A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley that it be passed on the second and final reading. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Young, and the roll being called, The Commissioners 1.7 voted as follows: Grammer Yes f. , Tarpley Yes Young Yes > Hill Yes Applications were presented for transfer 4 COP License from Leo Gignac and Hazel Gignac to Rosemary Verrecchio, Jack's Bar, 103 East Beach Blvd. , and u'• ` 3 PS License from L. T. Baxter and Ella R. Baxter to Max Phillips , Inc. , Drive-In Liquors, 530 S. W. Second Street, and y.,. u' : 2 PS License, Richard M. Lebo, 1501 S. W. 12th Avenue. Grocery • and Market. A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley that applications be approved on first reading. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Young, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: • Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (3) Nickolas P. Pallonari, application for taxicab license. Although • the Ordinance regarding the Taxicab Franchise has not been rigidly en- forced in recent years, a,:motiorirwas made by Commissioner Grammer that the application for taxicab license be granted subject to compliance with all City Ordinances. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (4) Anna K. Frier Ceurgay, application for auction to be held • April 18 or 23, 20 N. E. F rst Avenue. It was determined that this sale would take place only in the morning of either date, within the confines of the store and under the supervision of Chief Smith. A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley to grant the auction license. . The motion was seconded by Commissioner Young, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes • (5) City Manager's Report. The City Manager presented bills for pay- ment as follows: Broome & Farina - Plans, specifications, and contract for the ' paving of streets. Project No.6120 in. the amount of $616.00 • Philpott, Ross & Saarinan - Balance due on plans and specifi- cations for street µnd'alley paving, and storm drainage, in the, amount of $526.00.✓ Water Conditioning Equipment Company An addition to the Water Treatment Plant - • Estimate No.l Partial payment $ 1,874.38 Estimate N0.2 " it 10,325.00 Total amount due at this time 12,199.38 The City Manager then read a letter written to HHFA in Atlanta - "Your letter of January 157 1964 approved a Federal Grant in the amount of $63,OOO for this project. As advised by Mr. Bach, Field Engineer, whom I con- tacted, we are hereby making application for 25% of • this grant or $16,250 at this time."-.. Commissioner Young asked Mr. Culverson if the bills are all in order and made a motion for payment of the three bills, subject to any restrictions that may be placed, or necessitated, by the Federal -2- • • Government. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: i Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes • (6) Attorney Walden called attention to the still pending case in Municipal Court against Steinfeldt-Thompson Company (a tomato cannery) entailing the Municipal Judge who disqualified himself. Because Mr. Young, our Assistant Judge, does' not wish to serve, Judge'Black made arrangements with Hudge Pallotto from Hollywood to 'sit on this particular case, without compensation. Commissioner Young moved that • a resolution be adopted and passed, appointing Judge Pallotto of Hollywood to serve on this one case - without compensation - as Acting City Judge for the City of Dania. The motion was seconded by, Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (7) It now being 8:25 P.M. Mayor Hill called for any additional bids • for the construction of sidewalks. There being none, a motion was made by Commissioner Young that the time for accepting bids for the construction of sidewalks be closed. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, Commissioners voted as follows: ♦ Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (8) City Manager Culverson read bids as follows: BROWARD CONSTRUCTION COMPANY Bid accompanied y a B3.dand . Item 5 31840 sq.ft. . $ .50 sq.ft. $19920.00 Item 6 1,675 sq.ft. .70 sq.ft. ..J72.50 Item 7 Remove •tree .650.00 Estimated Grand Total $3,742.50 HARDRIVES COMPANY Bid accompanie y a Bid Bond Item 5 3,840 sq.ft. $1.03 sq.ft. $3,955.20 yr Item 6 1,675 sq.ft. , 1.14 sq.ft. 1,909.50 Item 7 Remove tree 500.00 Item 8 10.00 Estimated Grand Total $6,374.70 A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley that bids be referred to the Engineer for tabulation and recommendation. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Grammer, and the roll being called, the x;. Commissioners voted as follows: ' Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yea •t., Hill Yes c -3- • (9) City Manager Culverson read a bid as follows: ERWIN"S APPLIANCE & E UIPMENT COMPANY Caen Bi on 1 - Trans Air Conditioner $988.00 One year free service. Five year warranty on compressor. Wiring to be furnished by others. A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley to .award the contract to . Erwin's Appliance & Equipment Company at a total cost of $988.00. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Grammer, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (10) Dr. Johnson, representing the Dania Rotary Club, gave a very interesting, instructive, and educational address on "FLUORIDATION OF COMMUNITY WATER SUPPLY" . . . . what it is . . . . its background . . . . what can be expected of it . . . . the cost . . and the need for it. Dr. Johnson has been practicing Dentistry for more than 20 years and is well versed on the subject. Dr. Brammer announced he endorsed 100%,, the program advocated by Dr. Johnson. (11) Mr. William L. Davis , 704 S. W. Second Avenue, Dania, paid public tribute to the Fire Department and its Rescue Squad for their outstand- ing work on the evening of March 21 (during the cloudburst) when there was a three car collision in the vicinity of the American Legion as well as later the same evening when his wife fell at the same loca- tion, breaking her hand, smashing her nose, and injuring her knee. Mr. Davis was profuse in his thanks - even offering to assist in • campaigning for funds etc. , at any time the Fire Department needed help in this connection. (12) Mr. Knoblock, a member of the audience, asked to call to the attention of the Commission the fact that in the past, no , taxicab companies have been required to take out a license and wondered whether this still held true. Attorney Walden: Yes, it does. Mr. Knoblock: •If it does still hold true and you allow Pallonari to take out a taxicab license, * I wonder if this wouldn't be an indica- tion then that. you would require all other taxicabs to take licenses out also. You see, in the past, I believe the City of Dania did not require them to take out licenses due to the fact that it was the belief they could not make a living off the City itself even if they could make a living off the license fee. So, if you give Pallonari the opportunity and let him take out a taxicab license, wouldn't it seem an indication that all the other taxicabs should be taking out licenses also? Attorney Walden: As I see it, this man maintains a physical place of business in Dania. The basic thing in our Ordinance is to make sure they have Liability Insurance coverage. When out of town taxicabs Q come into Dania, that is our primary concern whether it is in the Ordinance or not. It has always been the insurance question, so if they are physically in a place of business here, that's what we should check and be concerned about. We have companies that do business and have places of business here. Taxicab franchises were not given out as such, and all taxicabs were allowed to come in and pickup and no j restrictions were placed except that they have Public Liability Insur- ance. We make them get their fingerprints taken. We haventt forced -4- a" • • them to buy an Occupational License. Have we, Mrs. Thornhill? ® Mrs. Thornhill: That's right. We had a Franchise with the other company and they have never renewed it. Attorney Walden: Well, we do have a long, fancy Ordinance on the books. Mr. Tom Barryhill came down to the city in about 1956 and talked the Commission into passing it for the Great Yellow Cab ® Fleet. This Ordinance is on the books, and the only thing in the Ordinance besides the revenue feature of it is to give the city some control over the insurance part. In other words , you don't want to allow cars running around without any coverage at all. Commissioner Grammer: Can't we just give this man a permit like we r always did, without the license, if we haventt charged anybody else? Commissioner Young: Yes , if they have a business hare. Attotney. Walden: I don't think we should get involved in a dis- cussion but if you have a physical place of business in Dania, the • city can require a person to have a license. Lawyers . . . if they have an office in Dania, they get a Dania Occupational License. They can practice in Hollywood and have one but, again, the point I am making is the basic purpose behind any license with the City, is the insurance question. If the City wishes to waive the Occupational Fee, there is one thing I would recommend . that the Chief, or someone, • make sure there is insurance on the cabs on our streets. Commissioner Tarpley: It was stated in the motion they meet all re- quirements. City Clerk: Did you still intend to charge the fee for the cab? Commissioner Grammer: Yes, the usual Occupational License. City -Clerk: The fee is $25.00 per cab. Commissioner Grammer: My impression was he only wanted one cab. • (13) Mr. Tanner, representing the Sunshine Villa Apartments on the East Side of Dania, indicated their interest in the Sanitary Sewer Project for that area. Their president, Lisa Reece, wrote a letter to Congressman Paul G. Rogers and Senators Spessard Holland and George A. Smathers, requesting their cooperation in the prompt • approval of a loan from the HHFA for the City of Dania for the con- struction of the sewer. Letters were read from these gentlemen, and they promised to give their personal attention in asking that the application be,given every consideration. (14) Chief Smith: The Fire Chief and I have something we want to bring up concerning the Fire and Police Departments. On August 14, 1960 there was an Ordinance passed that the Fire and Police Departments could take certain monies that are due us, or that we would be allowed to collect for the purpose of a Retirement Plan for the Policemen and • Firemen. We are asking now that it be brought up and discussed, be- cause we are entitled to the money and I understand it just takes a letter to Tallahassee or somewhere, and we have to get it in before May 1 or we lose the last years money. . It's money that was collected from insurance companies on accident cases in each Municipality and turned over to the Municipality for retirement of their Police and Firemen. Whether or not we ever do get a Pension Plan, at least this is a start to get some money. Chief Lassiter: This is a tax that is held by the State from certain insurance companies writing insurance - fire insurance and casualty ! insurance. The money is already being collected by the State who _ collects 2% tax on the insurance premiums in this classification, re- fundable to the cities at the rate of 1% of the tax for the purpose { of setting up Retirement Plans for the Police and Fire Departments. It is not a joint thing . . . it's two separate actions and we have two separate Ordinances that were passed. It was set up by the State and � -5- 0 passed by the City Commissioners of Dania in August, 1960. These ® Ordinances have to be sent to the Insurance Commissioner if we are to receive this money and it is to be applied to a Retirement Plan for the Police and Firemen. That's the only thing for which it can be used, and in the event you don't have a Retirement Plan or don't set one up, that money is refundable to the State and we don't get to keep it. To keep it, it can only be used for that one purpose. The important thing is to get these Ordinances on to the Secretary of • State and the Insurance Commissioner. What we'd like to discuss now is that the 'Commission authorize the attorney to go ahead and forward these Ordinances to the proper place. Attorney Walden: The City Manager is the one to do that . . . there's A no legal problem involved. Chief Lassiter: Well, make authorization to the proper party to forward this to the proper place and get this rolling as quickly as possible so we can start collecting it. It amounts to several thousand dollars a year and we hope to get a Retirement Plan set up. A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley authorizing the City Manager to forward copy of the Ordinances to the 'Secretary of State and the Insurance Commissioner. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Grammer, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes. . Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes A (15) Attorney Walden: Several people have asked me to mention this to you. I would like to read this letter, addressed to the Commission, from the Dania Lions Club, dated March 26. "The Lions International is .holding its Florida State Convention in Hollywood, during the month of May, 1964 and .as a part of this convention there will be a parade at 7:00 P.M. on Friday, May 22. We would like the City Officials to . honor us by taking part in the parade with the usual convertible containing City Officials. It you can participate, please advise me and I will give you the necessary details." This request was referred to the May 4th Meeting. (16) Commissioner Tarpley: In our Ordinance Book in-' the City of Dania, we have an Ordinance that applies to doing business or opening a new business in the City of Dania. Then, further on the book, we have another Ordinance which pertains to the Jai Alai Fronton, Article II, Section 23-7, which permits the Fronton to operate a year before it is forced to take out its Occupational License. At this time, I would like to recommend a change in this Ordinance in that they com plyply with the original Ordinance and buy their Occupational License before the open season instead of after the season. Attorney Walden: Just let me make a general comment on the Ordinance. If it is under the taxation part of Ordinances, we do have a special section governing Jai Alai Frontons. Under that, the Municipality will tax the local Fronton at the rate of $10.00 per day. The present Ordinance reads that their tax is paid at the end of each season. I think Mr. Tarpley has in mind that we amend Section 23-7 in effect that the taxation be at the rate of$10.00 per day, to be paid in advance of the 1964-65 Season, based on the number of days allowed by the State Racing Commission. Commissioner Tarpley, do you want the Special Privilege Tax or Occupational License paid daily? -6- Commissioner Tarpley: No, I just want it paid before they open, like • everyone else. It's due on October 1. You can't call it taxation - any kind of a license, or permit, or anything like that, iantt taxa- tion. Doesn't make .any difference what kind of business youtre in. The point I'm getting at is that the City allowed them to operate one year in arrears when every other business man in town has to buy an Occupational License before he can open the doors. So, I think this • Ordinance should be amended and they buy their license at the same time as everyone else, which is October 1. The State Racing Commis- sion set their amount of days and their taxation is $10.00 per day. In the past, they have been operating 100 days , which is $1000.00. This year, they got five additional days days which would be $1050.00. I can see no reason why they should be allowed to go a year before • they get their license. Any other business man could come up here and ask for the same kind of consideration and, then, in the middle of the year, go broke, and not -buy any' license at all. Attorney Walden: Well, let me say this particular Ordinance we have for the $10.00 a day rate comes from the Florida State Statutes under • Jai Alai Frontons, and its the only type of license we can impose. Commissioner Tarpley: The reason I brought it up is that I cantt see having two Ordinances pertaining to businesses on the books, when one Ordinance would cover the whole thing. S Attorney Walden: Let me make this suggestion . . . if the majority of the Commission wants the Ordinance to be amended, it can be done very easily. If the majority so instruct me, I'll change the language in Section 23-7 to make the amendment. Mr. Tarpley, your whole motion is that they pay in advance - right? - because we now have our Ordinance so they don't pay in advance, but after the season. • Commissioner Tarpley: Right. Commissioner Grammer: I'm going to second that because I figure this way . I pay for my license in advance and everybody else does. Sometimes I buy a license in a town that I never do a .job in, but they still get the fee. I figure this way .. . maybe sometime Jai Alai will decide not to open longer in the year when the season is done, but we still get our license like we do from anybody else, so I'm going to second Mr. Tarpley's motion. City Clerk: How do you want the motion to read to amend 'the Ordinance? Attorney Walden: To amend Section 23-7 of the Code of Ordinances to read that the Jai Alai Fronton pay $10.00 per day for each day of operation, payable in advance, the effective date being October 1, 1964 for the 1964-65 Season. • Mayor Hill: Are they open the same amount of days every year? Commissioner Young: As a rule they are, except this year They got five additional days this year., The State Racing Commission tells them how many days they can operate before:they open. Mayor Hill called for a vote, which-was as follows: Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes • -7_ f . t: (17) p Commissioner Tarpley: I have something here to show you how much the City of Dania is in a rut. Quite a few years ago, we had Court Costs set at $3.001 and the way they arrived at that Figure . . . $1.00 went to the Policemen, $1.00 went to the Judge, and $1.00 went to the City. I think we ought to move ahead a little. Most of the surround- ing communities and cities have Court Costs set at $5.00. • A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley that a resolution be drawn and passed to increase the Court Costs from $3.00 to $5.00, effective immediately. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Grammer, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: • Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (18) • Commissioner Tarpley: In checking around, I find that we don't have flag poles on our West Side Park or Frost Park. There is quite a bit of activity in these parks every day and I feel that we should have a flag flying in the parks to remind the children who are grow- ing up that we do have an American Flag - and, to me, itts the most • beautiful flag there is. I would like to see flag poles installed in the West Side Park and Frost Park. A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley that flag poles be erected in all four City Parks. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Grammer, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as 1 follows: Grammer Yes Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes • (19) Commissioner Tarpley: Articles are still appearing in the paper re- garding our "Private Meetings,!' and I believe these should be desig- nated as "Conferences." 1 A motion was made by Mr. Tarpley to have the Press sit in on all Conferences. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Grammer, and the roll being .called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes • Tarpley Yes Young Yes Hill Yes (20) • Commissioner Tarpley: It was called to my attention by some of the merchants that the process of making .a left hand turn lane uptown on Federal Highway and Beach Boulevard, would cut out all of the parking for their business. This afternoon, I stood with some of them for approximately a half hour to 45 minutes observing the traffic. We noticed cars still parking on the aides and when the light was against traffic on Federal Highway, there would be cars sitting there four abreast. There is room enough there to have a left-hand turn lane and still have two lanes of traffic going through, and another space for downtown parking. I would like to recommend that the City Manager and the Chief of Police get in touch with the S.R.D. tomorrow morning and have them come down and take a survey. I think they can see for themselves that there is ample room for parking and -the left-hand turn lane. -8- !Y� . • (21) Commissioner Tarpley: Actually the salary of the City Manager used to be $6000. It was raised to J9000, with the understanding that there would be an Assistant hired to the City Manager. Mr. Houston made the statement that he didn't need an Assistant, so he'd take the whole $9000. Then we come along and hire another one and start him off at $8000 . . . then we hire another one and start him off at $8300. Keep goint , I'd like the job. Commissioner Grammert Go far enough, I might even give it another a whirl. Commissioner Young: Incidentally, Mr. Grammer, did you get your two weeks severance pay? Commissioner Grammer: I haven't even been fired yet. Commissioner Tarpley: This starting salary of $8500 was never dis- cussed. I didn't hear anything about it until I heard it up here. It caught me completely by surprise. The whole works, as far as that goes. Commissioner Grammer: Well, I will say this .. . what's done, has been done. It was never discussed with me whether they were going to pay him $8000, $8500, $3000, or $2000. I mean it never was talked about. We might have it set for $8000 or J9000. We hired a man at $8500, and I hate to see cutting a man's salary the first week he sits up hereon the Commission. So, what is done, is done . I would like to see it made that way . . . it was a vote and the man got the job at $8500, and I 'd like to see him have. the $8500. Commissioner Young: I'm not for cutting a man's salary the first week. What I'm trying to do is to adopt some policy for a starting salary. I mean, we might hire somebody else and start him over $10,000. The way things are going now - Commissioner Tarpley: Well, I'll go along with you on that. Commissioner Grammer: I would like to adopt a policy tonight for starting new City Managers off. at $8000 a year. I'm for that. Commissioner Tarpley: I think you ought to set a quota of how many you could have at one time '. . . we had three at one time. Commissioner Young: Well, gentlemen, as far as that goes, we did not have three at one time. If you will look at your Resolution you will find it supersedes all previous action . . . I mean, it's ok to joke about it, but - Commissioner Grammer: I'd like to give the City Manager a rest . . . we got a man hired here, let the man work. Letts forget about the City Manager for a while and try to think of something else. Commissioner Young: ,All kidding aside, we should agree on a base pay. The way it is now, it's just been jumping from one thing to another. Commissioner Grammer: Altight, , I 'll make a motion for any new City Manager we hire for a period of six months, receives $8000 for the first six months. If he's the man we want and is qualified, he goes to $9000. Commissioner Tarpley: I'll second the motion. j Commissioner Young: In business, you're supposed to hire a man.for. his capabilities and you're supposed to pay him for his capabilities. -9 We have no way of knowing what will happen by September . . . he might ® demand $9000, $9500, or $10,000. In three or four years time, the area might have doubled in population - or tripled. We don't know what's going to happen and I don't believe it's in the best interests of business to restrict the salary someone is paid. Commissioner Tarpley: Well, Mr. Young, Just -because the beginning O is $8000, doesn't mean we can't increase if the City expands and it is required -that we pay more to the City Manager. At the present time, we have no policy whatsoever . . . you just reach up in the air and pull out figures . . . wetll pay this man this . . . and I don't need an assistant, I'll take it all . . . and, to me, I don't think • it's right. We should have a starting point somewhere. Commissioner Grammer: I'm going to have to agree with Mr. Tarpley because, getting back to the budget, I think .it was $9000 set in there for the City Manager. Right? Well, our City Manager before this collected $9000. Commissioner Young: Now let's just give an example. At one time, thebudgetary figure for the City Manager of Dania was $6000 a year. Now supposing that the starting salary of a man had been• restricted to say $5000. If we had a good, qualified matt, we'd say "We'd like to make it $9000, but we can't start you off at that." I .just don't see where any worthwhile purpose is being served. It seems to me that qualifications and advances and many other things enter into it. Commissioner Tarpley: You refer to the budget, Mr. Young, but in the action which was taken on hiring Mr. Culverson the other night, it wasntt even taken into consideration. The budget wasn't even mentioned. .You made the statement yourself. The City Manager used to get $6000 . it's up to $9000 now . . . so I can't see where it's restricted. You can always raise a salary, or you can lower it: We haven't had any public policy on that. Commissioner Young: I know, but thatts what I'm trying to do now . . . trying to adopt one. Commissioner Tarpley: Do you have a plan formulated for starting salaries for the City Clerk, Police Chief, Fire Chief, Building Inspector .. or is it to be a discriminatory act against one position in the City? Commissioner Young: Well, the salary is set every year. Itts set in the budget. Commissioner Grammer: So next year, at the time of the budget or at the time we want to vote on the City Manager's salary - it was raised $3000 once before - it can be raised some more. Maybe I won't even be here . maybe you won't even want to be here. This is just something that weere doing. Maybe the next Commissioners who come in here can raise it to $15,000. There's nothing we can do about it. I mean, we can pass a Resolution, and the next �. Commission can come right back and pass one, and by-pass another one. Mayor Hill: We can pass this motion tonight and when we have a meeting in two weeks from now, pass another one. I don't see any purpose in a motion. I feel the salary should be studied at the :4 time we hire the person. I dontt 'see any purpose in this . . . we could come back in two weeks from now and undo what we are arguing about doing tonight. Commissioner Grammer: We can do anything that way, matam. Mayor Hill: That's right. _10- . s, • 0 0 Commissioner Grammars So what's the need of passing anything? Mayor Hill: I don't see the need of this. A motion was made by Commissioner Grammer that the starting salary ® of the City Manager be $8000 for the first six months and if he is retained, it go to $9000. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows: Grammer Yes • Tarpley Yes Young ' Pass Hill Pass (22) • Commissioner Grammer: I've been with the new Commission for six or seven months. I ran a campaign over on the West Side Park - I be- lieve nine of we Commissioners were there - and every candidate, at that time, promised the people over there that they'd work out a salary for them - a weekly salary, like we have for other employees. I would like to see some action taken for these people. I think • the boys who work in our Sanitation and Road Departments (I know every now and then we have to hire extra men - I'm not talking about them, I 'm talking about boys who have been with us for three, four, five , and some of them eight and ten years) are still on an hourly basis. You know the price of things has gone up and when it rains, the boys lose money. Sometimes they make $40 or 42 a week, and a • man - I don't care who he is - in this day and time cannot live on $42 a week if he has to pay rent, has a family and has to buy decent clothes for them. I'd like to see us help those people . .. I know I promised them, and every other candidate on that platform . promised. I'd like to see some action taken to help them. • Mayor Hill: I agree with you Commissioner Grammer, and I think per- haps our City Manager could sit down with us and work out something. Commissioner Tarpley:I feel the same way but there's nothing we can do at the time being .. . it's between now and budget time Commissioner Grammer: Let's forget about the budget because I. didn't have anything to do with it. That budget was made before .I came on this Commission. I told the people I'd help them, and I'm going to help them. I'll go down fighting for them just like I' do everything else. • Commissioner Tarpley:Well, Itm not going against them Mr. Grammer. Commissioner Grammer" We rob the budget here,' and here, and here . . . and I think these hardworking guys (I know they're hardworking be- cause I worked with them a month) deserve some consideration from the City now and it shouldn't be put off another seven months. Commissioner Tarpley: You know what I'll do right now? Make a motion that we table this until the next meeting and then we'll take action on it. • Commissioner Grammer: Mr. Tarpley, this can be tabled from now on - Commissioner Tarpley: I said the next meeting - Commissioner Grammer: I'm going to say this . you can table it now, vote against it, or whatever you want to do. I'm going to say let the City Manager meet with these -people, and I'll be glad to t; . -11- • talk to him and meet with the people. I'm on the Street Department . we could get together with the Chairman of Sanitation .. . talk with these boys and work out a program. Let's get going . . . let's don't talkfor another seven months. Commissioner Tarpley: I said the next meeting. Commissioner Grammer: Never mind the next meeting . . . let's do it tonight, because it will be the next meeting before we can get it passed. We.have to meet the boys and talk to them then the City Manager can tell us what the boys want. If we want it, we'll go for It . . . if we don't, we'll just flatly ,turn them down. Commissioner Tarpley: How can you pass on something you don't know you're going to get? Commissioner Grammer: I'm not trying to pass on anything. All I said was that the City Manager should be given authority to call the boys in and talk to them .. . talk about what they want and what we can give. He will report at the next meeting .let's take action on it then - or we don't take action. That's all. Commissioner Tarpley: That's ,what I said. Commissioner Grammer I said let this man talk to them, and you said table it until the next meeting. Commissioner Tarpley: We're going to have to in order to talk to them . . . you can't talk to them now.. Commissioner Young: To be perfectly frank about it, I thiuk':that Mr. Culverson should meet with them in the very near future and figure out things. He should then bring back to us his recommenda- tions for a formulated weekly salary. I think we should instruct him , at this time to bring a report to us at the next regular meeting, so that we can consider action on it at that time. That would be my suggestion. There being no further business , the meeting adjourned. Sir tearyVkhornhill City Clerk G✓ Vera L. HILL Mayor Commissioner t, „' -12-