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FLORIDA HELD DECEMBER 2, 1963.
The City Commission of the City of Dania, Florida met in Reg-
ular Session in the Commission Room at the City Hall.
PRESENT WERE: MAYOR COMMISSIONER VERA L. HILL
COMMISSIONERS R. L. GRAMMER
VIRGIL L. TARPLEY
JOSEPH D. THORNTON
S. ELLIS YOUNG
CITY MANAGER E. S. TUBBS, JR.
CITY ATTORNEY CLARKE WALDEN
CHIEF OF POLICE MONTIE F. SMITH
BUILDING INSPECTOR CHARLES LINDEMAN
CITY CLERK MARY THORNHILL
Meeting called to order at 8:00 P. M. EST by Mayor Hill.
Pledge of Allegiance to the flag and the invocation was held
at this time.
Attorney Walden: On November 22, 1963, Commissioner Thornton
tendered a letter of resignation to the commission. The Com-
mission held a .specigl meeting at noon today in which they
rejected that letter and asked Mr. Thornton; to continue to
serve. Since no vacancy was ever declared, I think the resign-
ation letter is rather-meaningless. So that our records ,will
be clear, the minutes of the meeting should show some express-
ion from Commissioner Thornton of his willingness to serve.
Thure is no way we can make him serve.
Commissioner Thornton: Let the minutes show I will continue
to serve.
Mayor Hill asked Alva K. Peters , Superintendent of the Water-
works to come forward at this time. She then asked Commissioner
Thornton to take over the meeting at this point.
Commissioner Thornton: Sometime ago we received a letter from
the chairman of the Special Safety Commission for the Florida
section of the AWWA. The letter was addressed to Mr. Peters
and all the commissioners received a copy. I will read it at
this time.
"Dear Mr. Peters:
It is a pleasure to inform you that your water department out
of ninety participants , has been chosen by the special safety
committee for the Florida section of the AWWA to receive an
award. The outstanding record which your department completed
during the last year is indeed an accompolishment worthy of
praise." It was mentioned at the reorganizational meeting that
Mr. Peters had received this commendation and that we would like
to recognize it also.
At this time in behalf of the City Commission and the people of
Dania, I would like to present to Mr. Peters this plaque in app
41 reciation of his outstanding services and his safety record at
the water plant.
Mr. Peters thanked the commission for the plaque.
Minutes of the meetings held November 13, 18, 22, 1963 were read.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley minutes be approved as
read. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Thornton.
Commissioner Young: The minutes of the meeting held November 18
on page 4 does not have a vote recorded on the motion to appoint
• a Human Relations Board. There was also some corrections to be
made in the minutes of the November 13 meeting.
City Clerk, Mary Thornhill, advised that the corrections were
made.
• Mayor Hill called for a vote on the motion to approve the minutes
as corrected. The motion was as follows:
Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
• Young Yes
Hill Yes
An ordinance amending Sec. 28-31 of the Code of Ordinances by
repealing that part of auch section pertaining to the right-of
way of S. W. 12th Avenue, and adopting a new section, was, read
• by Attorney Walden.
A motion was made by Commissioner Young this ordinance be passed
on third and final reading. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Tarpley, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as fol-
lows:
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Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
#Young Yes
• Hill Yes
Application for transfer of a 4 COP License from James M. Linden
to Helen A. Bullen, 26 West Dania Beach Boulevard, was presented.
Chief Smith: I have checked on the applicant and found everything
in order and approved the transfer.
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A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley this application for
transfer be approved on second reading. The motion was seconded
by Commissioner Young, and the roll being called,, the Commissioner
voted as follows:
• Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes '
Thornton Yes
Young Yes
Hill . Yes
• Mayor Hill: At the last meeting we tabled the request of Jack
Bishirjian for a permit to erect a building on Lot 8, less W 11 ,
Block A, Park Hill, 230 South Federal Highway, until we received
a report from the Fire Chief and the Building Inspector.
Building Inspector Lindeman: After checking, he and the Fire
Chief approved the plot plan without requiring a set-back in the
rear inasmuch as there is a ten foot alley on the. side of the build-
ing that can be used for fire protection.
A motion was made by Commissioner Tarpley that permit be granted
as recommended. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Young,
and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows:
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O Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
Young Yes
Hill Yes
• Attorney Walden: I was asked at the last meeting to make a
report'on taking steps to demolish a house on S. W. 7th Street.
I wrote a letter to the City Manager which reads in part.
it At the meeting of the City Commission of November 18, 1963
I was requested to prepare a report concerning a dilapidated
building at 246 S. W. 7th Street. Actually, with respect to
• the particular property, I. do not.recall being requested in
recent months to write the usual demand letter to the owner
concerning the removal,.of the building. . However, as a result
of an investigation and discussion with Mrs. Thornhill, I find
that Mr. Houston, while he was city manager,• had taken steps
to have the building removed. The property is owned by an
• estate which has two beneficiaries. The estate is represented
by Mr. Fred Schmunk, a lawyer in Fort Lauderdale. I talked
with Mr. Schmunk about: the matter today and he acknowledged
previous requests from Mr. Houston that something be done.
Mr. Schmunk indicated that his clients, namely the two benefic-
iaries , wanted to cooperate with the city and I believe that
something can be done which will satisfy the city and also avoid
a long legal process of having the property removed by a special
assessment procedure.
I request that you obtain one of two informal bids from wrecking
• companies as to the cost of demolishing the building and clearing
the property. With such bids I believe that I can prevail upon
Mr. Schmunk to have his clients contract with one of the wrecking
firms to remove the building without further action being necess-
ary on the part of the city."
I talked with the lawyer-for the two beneficiaries and he knows
the city wants the building removed. If he can find out what it .
is going to cost, he will be able to prevail upon them to do it
quickly. So if you will have the city manager get one or two
bids and give them a guaranteed price, I will try to get him to
give us the authority to go ahead.
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A motion was made by Commissioner. Thornton that the City Manager
be authorized to get two bids for removing the house located at
246 S. W. 7th Street. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Young, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as fol-
1ows :
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Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
}' Young Yes
Hill Yes
• Cityer, Tubbs Mana g presented a bill from E. H. Whitson Company in
the amount of $790.00 for air conditioning the police department
as per contract. He recommended payment of the bill as the job
was complete.
A motion was made by Commissioner Grammer the bill as presented
be approved for payment. The motion was-sseconded by Commissioner
Thornton, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as.
follows:
Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
;< Young Yes
r : Hill Yes
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Attorney Walden: At the last meeting of the commission, Mr.
Rhodes, the operator of the restaurant on the fishing pier,
presented the city with two bills for taxes and asked that the
city consider paying them. I checked with the tax assessor to
0 find out the basis of the assessment for each of the bills.
One bill is for $83.21 which represents the assessment of the
inventory of fixtures and equipment. Under the terms of the
lease Mr. Rhodes ought to pay that. I suggest that bill be re-
turned to him for payment.
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The other bill in the amount of $105.32 in effect is the assess-
ment on the leasehold interest of the restaurant part of the
pier. While the lease was written about two years ago, it is
silent specifically on this. However, I think it was the intent
for the city to. pay that kind of tax. So I recommend that the
A city pay the bill for $103.32.
Recently the operator of the, Bait and Tackle Shop presented
similar bills. One in the amount of $23.78 ought to be paid
by the tenant under the terms of the lease. The other in the
amount of $81.07 ought to be paid by the city. Actually, you
have a later lease on this and that type of tax is covered
under that lease. So to sum it up, on the restaurant I recom-
mend the bill for $83.21 be returned to Mr. Rhodes for payment,
and that the city pay the bill for $103.32. On the tackle shop
I recommend the bill for $23.78 be returned to the tenant for pay-
ment and that the city pay the bill for $81.07.
A motion was made by Commissioner Young that the city pay the
tax bills for $105.32 for the restaurant and $61.07 for the
tackle shop as recommended by Attorney Walden. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll being called, the
Commissioners voted as follows:
Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
Young. Yes
Hill Yes
City Manager Tubbs: You have all been handed a drawing showing a
layout of the city and the recommendation for additional street
lights. I would like to recommend that we get started adding the
additional lights as it will probably be next summer before they
are all in. There may be a few minor changes or modifications.
But I would like to see something started. This recommendation
is for approximately 250 additional lights throughout the city.
I would also like to recommend that white way lights be extended
one block south and one block north on Federal Highway, from the
ones that were installed last year. We have the money in the bud-
get to do this. I would like to be authorized to go ahead with
the engineering at this time.
Commissioner Thornton: Do we have enmugh money in the budget for
all the proposed lights?
City Manager Tubbs : No. We have $5,000 for US 1 lighting.
Commissioner Young: The plan calls for $6,250 for addition to the
residential lighting, of a total for the entire program of $9,080
for the entire year. This is quite an improvement in our resident-
ial lighting and will be a big help to our police department. How-
ever the months of September, October and November are passed, which
L is one-fourth of our budget year. The majority of these lights pro-
bably will not be installed in another three to six months, so we
will be within our budget allocation.
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® Commissioner T r le I will make a motion that we
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this project immediately and authorize the city manager to go
ahead with the engineering on the lights for Federal highway.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Young, and the roll being
called, the Commissioners voted as follows
Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
Young Yes
Hill Yes
It now being 8:20 P. M. , Mayor Hill called for any additional bids
in the audience for the purchase of police cars. There being no
more bids, a motion was made by Commissioner Young that the time
for accepting bids for the purchase of police cars be closed. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley and carried.
City
Manager g Tubbs presented bide as follows :
HOLLYWOOD FORD, INC.
(1) 1964 Ford .Custon 4 Dr. Sedan $2,006.01
(2) 1964 Ford Custom 4 Dr. Sedans $2,004.56 per unit
Optional Engine
352 Cu.in. - 250 hp, add $49.90 per unit
Trade Allowances: As per appraisal, November 30, 1963.
1962 Ford, Tudor Sedan $850.00
1962 Ford, Fordor Sedan 900.00
POWELL MOTOR COMPANY
i 1964 Ford Custom 4 Dr. Sedan
(Your net cost each) $1,986.58
Alternate: Same unit as above but with 230 HP engine.
(Your net cost each) $2,013.38
Approximate delivery time 45 days
Due to the length of production time on the new, vehicles and the
usage of the trade-in units, we propose to take the highest of
' three bids as trade-in value of the used units at the time of the
new vehicle delivery.
BILL KELLEY CHEVROLET
(3) New 1964 Chevrolet Cars
Model 1269 Biscayne 4 Dr. Sedan
Net Price each unit $2,112.54
Options: 250 Hp V8 Engine 66.88
Roof Lite wiring 7.60
Amp meter 9.75
Trade-in allowance:
2 Dr. Sedan $600.00
4 Dr. Sedan 650.00
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Note: We can offer you a special built Chevrolet Police Package
teamed with the 195 HP V8 or the 250 HP V8 motor.
Add to above base price:
195 HP V8 $16.50
• 250 HP includes motor & package, 44.00
Mayor Hill asked City Manager Tubbs and some of the Commissioners
to tabulate the bids so that a decision could be made tonight, so
there will not have to be another special meeting,
• Attorney Walden read an ordinance of the City Commission of the
City of Dania, Florida, annexing' to the City of Dania, Florida,
certain territory contiguous thereto and more particularly des-
cribed herein by extending the corporate limits of said city
to include said territory; fixing the liability of the .annexed
territory for taxes, licenses and other municipal charges of the .
• City of Dania; providing for the continuance of Broward County,
Florida, zoning classifications as to such annexed territory
until such annexed territory. is zoned according to the laws and
ordinances of the City of Dania; establishing the status of such
annexed territory in regard to municipal regulations , services
and benefits ; providing for a special election to be held in the
• City of Dania and in the territory to be annexed pursuant to the
provisions of Chapter 171.04, Florida Statutes, 1961; providing
for an effective date; and repealing all ordinances in conflict
herewith to the extent of such conflict, ,in its entirety.
A motion was made by Commissioner Thornton this ordinance be pass-
0 ed on second reading. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Grammer, and the roll being called, the Commissioners voted as
follows:
Brammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
• Thornton. Yes
Young Yes
Hill Yes
City Manager Tubbs: After tabulating the bids be find Hollywood
Ford, Inc. , the lowest and best bidder, and recommend the purchase
• of three cars from them. One car at $2,006.01; two cars at
$2,004.56; less trade-ins at $850.00 and $900.00. Also, 250 HP
engines, add $49.90 each unit.
A motion was made by Commissioner Young to purchase three cars
from Hollywood Ford, Inc. as recommended by City Manager Tubbs.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Tarpley, and the roll
being called, the Commissioners voted asfollows:
Grammer Yes
+` Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
Young Yes
Hill Yes
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Mr. Tanner, from Sunshine Villas: We would like to inquire as
to the present status of the proposed sanitary sewers for the
east side of the City.
City Manager Tubbs: Since you were here at the last meeting,
we have contacted the engineer, who has been under contract
with the city since 1957, and has prepared several proposals
for the city. He .is now bringing up to date a feasibility
report and making studies on the revision he made in 1960.
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This will be brought up through 1963 showing our projected in-
come. After that is done, we will make application to two gov-
ernment agencies. One is the Water Pollution Board and the other
the Housing and Home Finance Agency in Atlanta.
Commissioner Young: If you will please bear with us, as you real-
ize there are miles of red tape when you are dealing with a govern-
ment agency.
Mr. Tanner: We realize that if you had everything ready at the
present time it would,be sometime before you could get started.
That is why we are so concerned because it is more serious than
• the people on the west side of the city realize. It is definitely
a health hazard to the entire community. Buildings are being erect-
ed in this area all the time, which means. that the marl sub-strata
will very soon become a mess of saturated sewage unless something
is done. We have a very 'serious problem of our own. We hope you
• will continue as diligently, as possible to get the sewers.
Mr. Lucas: I would like to ask some questions about the annexation.
First of all I do not understand why if we are annexed into the
City of Dania, it is going to be approximately ten months before we
• can have garbage pick-up. It seems like an excessive length of
time. When will the election be held for the people to vote on
whether they want to come into Dania? How long before we can expect
to have City of Dania water? We are a. bunch of thirsty people at
the other end of the street. This is one of the main reasons we
are interested in coming into Dania. How long before we can have
• a sub-station for fire protection? This will reflect upon our fire
insurance rates. How far will the ,lighting system be brought down
Griffin Road?
Attorney Walden: I was instructed by the Commission to write this
ordinance as quickly as possible. I have not actually discussed it in
any great detail with the commission. We have a provision in the
ordinance for garbage collection, which states as quickly as possible,
but not later than September 1, 1964. In drafting the ordinance I
did not discuss this with the commission. But from my limited know-
ledge, it seemed the City may, have to consider buying additional
equipment. How long that will take I do not know.
The annexed territory does not become liablb for any taxes until
that time, so that is a problem.
The next question is that of an election date. To his knowledge
this is the first city to try annexation since .the state ordinance
was amended in 1961. The ordinance is not clear qs to whether the
city can use the county registration or whether we will have to ask
the people in the area to come to city hall and register. I have
written the Attorney General to get a ruling so that an election.
can be held before November 29, 1964.
In checking with Mrs. Gates, she did not know either as she has
l[ never had the question come up before.
Commissioner Thornton: On the question of the election. We will
need some people from the area to, work on the election board. We
would like to have at least twelve names of people that are qual-
ified and can work so the be appointed
y can pp when we pass the ord-
inance on final reading.
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® Attorney Walden: On the matter of garbage collection. The City
was involved in a lawsuit about a year ago with the Broward County
Health Department on the dump we have west of the city. We were
allowed to proceed temporary until we could see what the county
incineration program would be. I think the city will be influenced
a great deal on whether or not they will use incinerators, as to
• what equipment they buy.
The water is going to depend on the engineering and the money.
The commission has to decide on what they are going to do about
that.
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Commissioner Thornton: We cannot spend money to have engineering
done and plans drawn until we find out whether the majority of the
people want to be annexed. We cannot give you a definite date to-
night as to when you will receive water.
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Mr. Lucas: I understand from a reputable engineering firm that
completer plans for this area can be ready for advertising for
bids within 90 days. So you can have that ready for an engineer
as soon as you know we are going to be annexed.
Attorney Walden: The ordinance states that immediately after an-
nexation the city will furnish police and fire protection.
Commissioner Thornton: We do not have money in this budget to
build a fire station. We will have to wait until the next budget.
Commissioner Young: I do not want you people to be mislead on
this. If we find there is a definite need for some of these things
we can re-allocate funds and advertise for bids for such things as
a garbage truck. As far as, afire sub-station is concerned-- it is
very possible that the type and size will have something to do with
it. If it does not have to be too large, it may be possible by
passing a resolution allocating certain funds, that can be arranged
ahead of time.
Mr. Lucas: It seems the big thing we are confronted with is water.
t:. You do not know how long that will take. We may be in the city and
be without water six months or even a year. � There seems to be no
guarantee as to when the city will give us water.
Commissioner Young: In the very near future the expansion of our '
water plant will be under way. The only thing that is going to be
coming up for consideration is the possibility of floating revenue.
bonds to liquidate the initial cost of the mains, thqt would be
the only major thing involved.
Mr. Lucas: In the event we do not come into the city, is there any
way you could furnish us with water? If we should come into the
city will there be a service charge for the water coming into the
house even though a person does not connect to it? Or, will it be
r; like any other city, when you move in the water will be hooked up
for a normal charge? When they were talking about bringing the
Playland water plant in it was going to run some $200 to $300 for
each lot, which would be added on your taxes. if you hooked on
to the water there would be a charge of $100. How will this be
done by the city?
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• Commissioner Young: My recommendation on that would be this. That
is the purpose of floating revenue bond issues. Revenue bonds are
the type bonds that are repaid by the debt seraice created by the
money earned from the sale of water. In other words, if it is han -
dled in this way there will not be a front foot assessment. I hope �-
it is done that way.
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Commissioner Thornton: The lighting plan submitted here tonight
extends out Griffin Road to the present city limits.
Mrs, Rosenberg: The main reason for this annexation is for water.
• The petition that was made up stated that the people would also get
free garbage collection. That it would come automatically as soon
as we were annexed.
City Manager Tubbs: That would be almost impossible because we
• only have enough equipment to take care of the present city limits.
if the election is favorable and the area is annexed, at that time
the commission will allocate funds to purchase equipment.
Mrs. Rosenberg: If the bonds are floated, will the people pay so
much per front foot for water lines?
City Manager Tubbs: Mr. Young stated that in his opinion there
would ne no assessment against the front footage to the property
owners. He said they would be revenue retiring bonds-- in other
words-- revenue produced from the sale of water would retire the
• bonds. However, there would be a meter charge of $65.00 and a
$10.00 deposit, which is refundable.
Commissioner Young: There are three kinds of bonds. One is
revenue retiring, which means the bonds are paid off.by the
• monies received from the facilities of servicing. There is an-
other class called special assessment bonds. That is where the
money is used and an assessment made against the property. When
that is paid the bonds are liquidated. Another is where .a water
or sewer district is created and you have what is known as general
obligation bonds which calls for a referendum for the simple
reason that is the same as a mortgage on your property. The
people have to vote on that.
My recommendation, which I think is most equitable and easier
would be for revenue retiring bonds. It would appeal .to me if
I were in the area.
Attorney Walden: Let me make one suggestion. Over the years on
any major financial matters the city has always consulted Mr. Hodge
with the B. J. Van Ingen Company. I would suggest that you write
him to come up and advise you on the matter of bonds. He is al-
ways glad to do this, and it is better to get started on the right
foot in matters of this type.
Mr. Lucas: What will be the millage rate?
Commissioner Thornton: our present y:illage is 5 1/2 mills. The
millage rate is set each year when you adopt your budget.
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® Mr. Albert: Does the commission plan to do anything about the
high railers on the FEC through the city? There was an awful close
call this morning at the Dixie Highway crossing. The City of Miami
trys to do something about it.
• Mr. Marino: We have a lot of planes flying very low over the city.
Can something be done about it?
City Manager Tubbs: He had other complaints and checked on it.
It seems they are lengthening the run-ways on the east/west pattern.
• It is only temporary, they should be back to normal flying in a
short time.
Commissioner Tarpley: They are extending the runways on both ends.
They are only 6,800 feet and are being extended to 8,400 feet. in
• fact Eastern has discontinued their jet service until the runways
are completed.
Mr. Lucas: I understand the Commissioners are going to be at the
meeting of the Griffin Civic Association on December 10. The rea-
son he brought up so many questions tonight was to give you some
idea of the questions that will be brought up at this meeting so
you can be prepared. I will appreciate it very much if you will
have some of these answers when some one ask them at the meeting.
if you can give direct answers it will be woth the effort. I do
not think you will .have any trouble annexing the area if you will
• do a good selling job for us. We have 600 names on the petitions.
There are 800 families involved.
Chief Smith: I would like to say that we were fortunate today to
arrest two teenagers that had been pulling robberies on our mer-
chants down town. We have a statement from them admitting the
thefts and he thought the business people would like to know about
it.
Mayor Hill: Thank you for the information. You are doing a good
job.
Commissioner Grammer: . I have five names to recommend to the Com-
mission for appointment to the Human Relations Board. They are:
M. Sterling Collins, Chester A. Byrd, James Adams, George Knob-
lock and Rev. William Jennings.
Commissioner Thornton:
I will make a motion to accept the recommendation.
Commissioner Tarpley: I will second the motion.
•, ' Attorney Walden: At the last meeting we passed a resolution with-
out it being read. I have prepared one for what I thought you had
in mind to do. I would like to read it wt this time.
Attorney Walden read a resolution constituting and appointing an
advisory board to be known as Human Relations "Board; and defining
generally the purposes and duties of such board; and providing for
a method of appointing members of the board; and providing for the
authority of the members to make recommendations to the City Com-
mission on matters within the scope of the authority of the board.
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Commissioner Tarpley:
• I will make a motion that the resolution be passed as of November
18, 1963. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Grammer, and the
roll being called, the Commissioners voted as follows:
Grammer Yes
Tarpley Yes
Thornton Yes
Young Yes
Hill Yes
• Commissioner Young: We have a motion and a second to appoint the
five man board as recommended. I would like to say that this is the
first I have heard the five names mentioned. I move that the five
names mentioned be tabled until we can have a conference and look
over the names.
Commissioner Grammer: I believe the Mayor appointed Mr. Tarpley
and me to work with these people and make a recommendation to the
commission. I would be glad to have the commission check the names
but we should get this board to work, we have been stalled for quite
some time now. I think the sooner we get it to work the better it .
will be. We have checked the names and that is .why we made this
recommendation. I have a letter from the West Side Civic Club rec-
ommending the two names submitted tonight.
Commissioner Young: Would you like to re-phrase the motion and
• approve the two names that .you mentioned; I will be glad to with-
draw my motion to table. .
Commissioner Thornton: There is a motion and second on the floor.
Commissioner Young: The motion to table supersedes the motion to
appoint.
Commissioner Grammer: Do you mean to appoint two of this. time?
Commissioner Young: If you wish to at this time to give us time
to check the other three names. I am not acquainted with some .of
them, and I don't think some of the other s are either. Mr. Tarpley
said he did not know about one of the names.
Commissioner Tarpley: There is one that I did not know was being
considered.
Commissioner Grammer: The only thing about postponing it is the
' fact we were put on the committee and I feel we should pick .the .
` names. Several people put their names in and I told them their
•: : names would be put in, but they may be turned down. Under them
circumstances may not want their names brought up.
COmmissioner Young: Frankly, when you are doing committee work yo u
are perfectly within your right to make recommendations to the com=
mission. However, it is up to the commission to make the final
decision on all matters.
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® Commissioner Grammer: Don't you feel you know these other people
as well as you do the other two?
Commissioner Young: No, frsnkly I don't.
Attorney Walden: Mr. Young's motion has to have a second to have
a vote on it.
Commissioner Tarpley: Mr. Grammer this is a new board and I cannot
see any real rush on it. I would like to extend the Courtesy to Mr.
Young to table this until he has a chance to consider the names.
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Commissioner Grammer: I will extend the courtesy if no one is
named tonight. This is my recommendation and I expect to vote
to accept or not accept them. I was appointed to make a recom-
mendation and this is it. Let's get the board to work. If Mr.
Young has some names he would like to put in, we will be glad to
consider them and vote on them individually.
Commissioner Young: I mentioned one name to Mr. Grammer. . The
gentleman's name is Charles DeMuzzio.
Commissioner Grammer: I had eight names, and I could only put in
three. This is my recommendation, you don't have to accept them
if you don't wish to.
Commissioner Young: I know when you read the names tonight it was
the first time I had heard anything about ony one of the names.
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Commissioner Tarpley: Mr. Grammer was just making his report as
a committee.
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Attorney Walden: To get this over with I suggest you get a second
on the motion to table:
Commissioner Tarpley: I will second the, motion to table until the
next regular meeting.
Mayor Hill called for a roll call vote on the motion to table.
The Commissioners voted as follows:
Grammer ; No
Tarpley Yes
Thornton No
Young Yes
Hill No
". Mayor Hill called for a roll call vote on the original motion to
appoint the five man board as recommended. The Commissioners voted
-' as follows:
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Grammer Yes
{' Tarpley I would like to make a state-
• ment before I vote. Originally
' there was supposed to be a three
man board and we decided it would
be' too small, so we decided on a
five man board with the under-
standing if it was necessary, ad=
�; ' ditional members would; be added.
,: . . I would like to have the record
:., show this. I will vote Yes on '
the ,five man board as recommend-
ed under the circumstances.
12 Thornton Yes
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Young Yes
Hill Yes
Commissioner Grammer: This is not a permenant board, it is ap-
pointed for one year. Next year you will appoint another board
the same as the zoning board or any other board.
Commissioner Tarpley: I am very glad to see the gap on the other
side of the table filled• it was quite a gap in more ways than
one, not only in space but his knowledge and ability on this com-
mission and to the city as a whole. I am very glad to see Mr.
Thornton sitting with us again. .
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Mary Thornhill
City Clerk
Vera L. Hill
Mayor-Commissioner
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