HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-11-17 Airport Advisory Board meeting minutes • City of Dania Beach
Airport Advisory Board
November 17,2005
Chairman Jay Field called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
Members present:
Billy Phipps Thomas Allen Jay Field
Rae Sandler Beulah Lair Bud Witz
Clive Taylor
Members absent:
Zachary Adams Don Hill Edwin Summers
Betty Sokol Dick Sokol
Others present:
Lorie Label,Consultant to Clean Air Project
Suzanne Witz
Minutes of the September 22e0 meeting were presented for approval. Motion made to approve by
Thomas Allen,seconded by Beulah Lair. Minutes approved as written.
Chairman Field introduced Lorie Label saying she is known by many of the board members as the
first noise control officer at the airport. She has changed from being a government employee to
• consulting the governmeat. She will be discussing some of the airport environmental concerns this
evening.
Ms Label distributed handouts covering the"Green Airport Initiative"and"Developing a
Coordinated Public Outreach Program". She first talked about programs already implemented at
the airport,then moved on to programs that are planned. Next she asked for comments and
suggestions from the board,saying the boards input is needed to determine how they feel Broward
County is doing as far as a coordinated outreach effort and if the County is meeting the needs of the
public.She also asked if the board felt there is a general lack of information.
Mr.Allen began the discussion by saying he felt better ground transportation could be achieved by
upgrading the rail system. There doesn't seem to be much coordination in this regard. He made a
number of suggestions for better management of ground traffic. Several possibilities were discussed.
Ms.Label said one of the things presently being considered is a people mover that would go around
the entire complex. It would be able to take people to an intermodal transportation center. She
offered to bring in speakers who would fully cover the subject. Mr.Taylor commented that he felt a
better method of getting cruise ship passengers to the port should be explored. Mr.Allen made a
comment that insofar as the cruise ships are concerned,unless a cruise is delayed it is unlikely that
passengers spend more than four hours in the city. This certainly does not generate business for the
hotels and other business.
Expanded runway capacity was the next subject discussed. It was suggested that methods used by
other airports should be explored. Mr.Allen said he felt a slottery such as used by LaGuardia might
be a good solution. Timed departures of the scheduled airlines would make a major difference. At
the present time everyone is trying to take off at peak periods. The slottery system would provide
much better control. He also suggested a change in run-up position could be used to reduce noise
• over the residential areas. Ms.Sandier said she feels expanded runway capacity is not the problem.
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• She believes there is gross mismanagement on the part of the airport She stated she works on the
north side of the airport and has frequently observed numerous small aircraft take off on the north
runway,thus delaying take off and landing of the large commercial jets.These smaller planes should
be using a different runway. Mr.,Allen said the slottery system could certainly help to solve the
problem. Chairman Field commented that increasing runway capacity might allow less pollution
as long as you don't have more gates and more operations but if you have more gates and operations
it will lead to more pollution.
Chairman Field asked several questions about mitigation. Ms.Label said she isn't particularly
involved in that area.
Chairman Field also had questions about the various air traffic management systems.Ms.Label said
these are things that can help make air traffic control more efficient. Chairman Field asked if this is
such a good deal why aren't they already being used. Ms.Label said the master plan document
should detail which of the air management systems the FAA will be getting. Chairman Field stated
he would like to know more about the various technologies and also why can't all of them be used.
Ms.Label will be getting more information in this regard.
Regarding water quality,Chairman Field inquired if there are monitoring stations. Ms.Label
replied she was not sure whether there are monitoring stations or whether they just test periodically.
Chairman Field recommended there should be a permanent monitoring station,not just periodic
testing.
Ms.Label was surprised and shocked to hear that Virginia Lane,representing the FAA,stated at a
meeting that the FAA is not bound by the interlocal agreement Mr.Allen and several other Dania
Airport Advisory Board members were present at the meeting,as was Commissioner Bob Anton,
Brenda Chalifour from Save Our Shoreline and an attorney representing Dania Beach and
• Hollywood. Also a number of other statement made by Ms.Lane were false and misleading. Ms.
Label said this information is exactly what she needs to take back because it touches on the whole
outreach effort She asked when the meeting had been held. Mr.Allen said it was a FAA Scoping
meeting held in February or March at the Sheridan Hotel. Ms.Lane had stated the meeting was
intended for agency representatives only. The attendees from Dania Beach were made to feel they
were intruders. Mr.Allen went on to say that a so-called public meeting was held later that same
week,which be attended.. The public meeting consisted of looking at displays,going from station to
station and don't dare to ask any questions. Ms!Sandler said she also attended those meetings and
the FAA was trying to shorten and streamline the environmental process to suit their own needs.
Mr.Taylor stated the main thing that creates delay is too much demand for capacity. He said he
feels there has got to be a limit as to what this airport can take as far as incoming and outgoing air
traffic is concerned.There has to be a number determined. There is a major airport just 18 miles
south and Ft.Lauderdale does not need any more growth.It is already built out. Dade County has a
lot of area left and so does Palm Beach. Mr.Allen asked if the Ft Lauderdale airport is built to serve
Broward County residents or is something owed to transient passengers? Insofar as limits to growth
is concerned,he felt if Ft.Lauderdale had as many slots as LaGuardia has,it should be more than
adequate.
Ms.Label asked if anyone could suggest anything the aviation department itself could do to be more
successful. Ms.Lair and Ms.Phipps both suggested a parking area be provided for people waiting to
pick up arriving passengers. At the present time people are parking on the shoulder of I-95 as well
as in surrounding residential areas. The area which was formerly Trails Inn Trailer Park was
suggested since it is now only being used as a storage area. It was pointed out there is a short term
parking area in the airport where a minimum fee is charged that should be used for this purpose.
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. Mr.Taylor suggested an exclusive scooter and motorcycle(two wheel)parking area be created for
employee use only at the Ft.Lauderdale Airport There is a similar area available at Miami
International. Ms.Label said this was an excellent suggestion which she would pass on.
Ms.Label thanked the board for the input she had received at this meeting,saying she had received
more useful information from the board tonight than from any other meeting she had attended.
Chairman Field thanked her for coming and promised to keep in touch with any other suggestions
he thought she might find helpful.
Ms.Lair made a motion that the December board meeting be cancelled. The motion was seconded by
Bud Witz and carried.There being no further business to bring before the meeting,Chairman Field
declared the meeting adjourned at 9:05 PM.
Jay Field,Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Suzanne Witz
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