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1. ROLL CALL AND SELF INTRODUCTION
2. EXCUSED ABSENCES
3. MINUTES
3.1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MEETING JANUARY 12, 2005
4. PRESENTATION OF SUB COMMITTEE REPORTS.
4.1 DISCUSSION OF RUNWAY PROJECT, MASTER PLAN UPDATE & PART 150 PROJECT,
EIS UPDATE, TASK FORCE UPDATE, WEB PAGE STATUS.
4.2 NOISE ABATEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING DISCUSSION
4.3 PRESENTATION OF ANY MEMBER RUNUP LOGS
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
6, NEW BUSINESS
7. ADJOURN
A REMINDER FROM THE CHAIR: ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING SHOULD WRITE
A NOTE TO DANIA CLERK STATING YOU WILL BE ABSENT OR YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH AN UNEXCUSED ABSENCE.
THANK YOU. SEE YOU AT THE MEETING.
Minutes
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Joint Meeting - Airport Advisory Committees
Dania Beach, Hollywood and Davie
Wednesday,January 12te,2005
The Dania Beach Airport Advisory Board hosted a joint meeting of the airport advisory
committees of Dania Beach, Hollywood and Davie on Wednesday,January 12th.. The
meeting was held at Dania Beach City Hall.
Chairman Jay Field called the meeting to order at 6:30 P.M.
Present representing Dania Beach
Jay Field Beulah Lair Gary Liedtke Ed Summers
Billy Phipps Irvin"Bud"Witz Karen Gottlieb Geri Ingraham
Nancy Stafford
Representing Hollywood
Scott Marder Steve Welsch Irwin Oster Evan Plotka
Representing Davie
Mayor Tom Truax David Notman Ingrid Allen
Others present:
Bob Mikes (Dania Beach Vice Mayor)
Pat Flury and Bob Anton(Dania Beach Commissioners)
Brenda Lee Shaliford(Save Our Shoreline)
Anne Castro(Malelauca Gardens Homeowners Assn.)
Rose Lizana(Dania Beach Press)
Suzanne Witz(Recording Secretary)
Dania Beach residents:
Ruby Ferguson George Jason Rae Sandler Bill Nelson
Betty Sokol Bill Sokol John Bertino Jayne Post
There were no requests for excused absence.
Minutes of the October 21 st, 2004 Dania Beach Advisory Board were approved as written.
Motion by Beulah Lair, seconded by Gary Luedtke
Chairman Field asked Scott Marder for his input. Mr. Marder began by saying
the Hollywood group feels that politically we have been able to slow the opposition down
tremendously but soon they may get to the point where they want money,either from
Tallahassee or Washington and it's time that we start building support in those areas..
The airlines insisting on a cost benefit analysis is in our favor but we are going to need
some help with putting our campaign together.. NOISE has been quite successful in this
type of endeavor and perhaps we should start working closely with them to build our
political support and lobbying in Washington. Also we have a new congresswoman,
Debbie Wasserman Schultz who we should contact to gain her support..
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Chairman Field asked what Mr. Marder felt should be our plan of action. Mr. Marder
said we need to start immediately. We should either make a conference call or try to
arrange a meeting with Dennis McGrain, Director of Noise and try to build a plan. We
need to collect our data and decide on our goals so that when we set down with the
legislators we have something definite to offer. Beulah Lair made a motion that the
suggested action be taken.
Several members present from Dania Beach and Hollywood expressed their agreement.
Ms. Lair asked Mayor Truax of Davie for his opinion. Mayor Truax said before he could
answer, he had a question. His question was exactly what is the position of Dania Beach
and Hollywood regarding the airport expansion and has it changed within the last few
months. He has heard that both Dania Beach and Hollywood support a new north
runway. Davie's position is they are opposed to any runway expansion whatsoever. Vice
Mayor Mikes replied to Mayor Truax question by saying when the federal government
considers a problem like this,they look for the best alternative available. In this case the
alternative that would displace the least amount of residents,have the least amount of
environmental impact, affect the least amount of people and still fulfill the need of the
people This is where the question of a second north runway came about. Those present
agreed that Dania Beach and Hollywood feel there should be no further expansion of the
airport and before any such action is undertaken,the Master Plan must be updated. The
action being undertaken by the Broward County Commission is entirely based on old,
incomplete and inaccurate information. Mr. Mikes stressed that if any progress is to be
made toward stopping the project the three cities must be in complete agreement.
At this point Mr. Marder raised a point of order. He said there is a motion on the floor
dealing with lobbying in Washington that was made by Beulah Lair and he felt the motion
should be dealt with before any other discussion. Basically the motion was that the joint
committees start planning to lobby Washington to block funding. The motion was
seconded by Scott Marder and carried.
Mr. Marder made a motion the three airport advisory committees recommend the
following position be taken by their cities: (1) The Master Plan must be updated before
any expansion at the airport can be considered. (2)The County must assess and mitigate
the current impacts and needs before expansion. Mr. Summers inquired about the scope
of the Master Plan and was told that it encompases all regional issues. Motion was
seconded by Ed Summers and carried unanimously.
Chairman Field said there was a recent incident that happened in regard to weight
limitations on the south runway. Fortunately Capt. Zack Adams had followed up on it
and it has been reported to the proper authorities. He assured the group it will be carefully
monitored so that it does not happen again.
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Mr. Marder questioned Mr. Liedtke about an email he had written a few weeks ago
stating Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood is not the fastest growing airport in the country.
Mr. Liedtke replied the Ft. Lauderdale Sun Sentinel constantly refers to Ft. Lauderdale as
being the fastest growing but this is not true. The fastest growing airport in the country is
Midway, outside of Chicago. An Associated Press reporter recently published an article
which stated that Midway is absolutely the fastest growing in the country in every respect.
It far exceeds Ft. Lauderdale in operations and number of passengers. The only item Mr.
Liedtke was unable to verify being the number of available seats. Mr. Marder asked Mr.
Liedtke if he knew where Ft. Lauderdale stands on the fastest growing list but Mr.
Liedtke was unable to give him this information.
Chairman Field next called on Benda Chaliford for input. She received a number of
favorable comments from the group on her recently prepared"Year in Review". Ms.
Chaliford said BCAD is doing business as usual, continuing to approve piece-meal and
phase projects. She feels that until we get the task force or someone on the Commission
to straighten things out,that's the way they will operate. Her recommendation to the
board is that each of the cities ask their county commissioner to come into their chambers
at a commission meeting and give them an update on what was said in December 04 was
going to be done, what they have done and how information can be obtained on what they
are pushing forward. She said we are still on top of everything so far but it is becoming
more and more difficult to obtain the information needed.
Chairman Field asked Vice Mayor Mikes how he felt about this suggestion. Vice Mayor
Mikes suggested the cities request regular task force meetings so we have a sounding
board made up of the three representative cities with the pertinent staff and media people
present. Ms. Chalifore agreed that the task force meetings could be very important but
said she felt the county commissioners should be made more aware of their accountability
toward the 260 thousand residents of Broward and that bringing one or more of them in to
speak to the city commission meetings would force them to be able to explain and
support their actions to a wider audience. Mr. Mikes agreed but said since Dania Beach
is in the middle of an election he felt the city should wait until after the election is over.
That way it would eliminate the necessity of a county commissioner having to speak to
the group twice and also would help to bring any newly elected city commissioner up to
speed. Having a county commissioner explain their action in this regard sounded like a
very good suggestion.
Beulah Lair made a motion that Commissioner John Rodstrom
be invited to speak to the
Dania Beach Commission after the election is over. Seconded by Geri Gilyard. Motion
carried.
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Ms. Chaliford stressed chat she felt everyone should get to know the newly elected
Broward County Commissioner, Lois Wexler. There is a good possibility that she may
become the next airport liaison and as of now, it appears she is in support of the runway
project at any cost.
The last item to come before the group was the scheduling of future joint meetings.
Chairman Field informed the group that the Dania Beach Airport Advisory Board meets
on the fourth Thursday each month at 7 P.M. It was suggested the three Board Chairmen
get together and work out scheduling between them.
There being no further business to bring before the group, Chairman Field called for
adjournment.
Jay Field, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Suzanne Witz
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Subj: FILL Expansion —Note from the FAA
Date: 2/15/05 11:55:26 Eastern Standard Time
From: SaveOu_r Shareline
BCC: JFinF
Our Update of February 11th notifed you about upcoming Focus Group Meetings being held by the FAA this
week
Feb. 16th 5-6:30 p.m. Fort Lauderdale residents
Feb. 16th 7-8:30 p.m. Hollywood residents
Location: Main Library, 100 South Andrews Ave., 8th Floor Bd. Room, Ft.Laud.
Feb. 17th 5-6:30 p.m. Davie residents
Feb. 17th 7-8:30 p.m. Dania Beach residents
Location: Stirling Road Library, 3151 Stirling Rd., Hollywood
We indicated our intention to attend all these meetings and recommended that you attend any or all of these
meetings as well. We also recommended that you ask your local elected officials and your airport advisory board
members to attend as well.
We have received the following communication from the FAA. Per their request we are passing it along
to you for your consideration,advice and counsel.
COMMUNICATION FROM VIRGINIA LANE OF THE FAA
Dear Ms. Chalifor:
I would like to clarify some of the information you provide below in your
email. The FAA is holding Focus Group meetings next week as part of the
public outreach program for the EIS for the proposed expansion of the south
runway at FLL. The Focus Groups are just one of the venues we have planned
to gather information for and facilitate discussion about the EIS process.
The Focus Groups are intended to be small venues that are limited to
representatives of homeowner and neighborhood associations that have been
identified as being located in the identified Project Study Area.
Your statement that the Broward County Aviation Department sent the FAA a
list of people who should be included in these focus groups is not correct.
The Broward County Aviation Department provided the FAA with a list of
representatives, officials, and organizations in the Broward County area.
The FAA edited this list based on a mission statement for the Focus Groups.
All identified homeowners associations in the identified Project Study Area
received a invitation to participate in the Focus Groups.
You are correct in your understanding that the Focus Group invitation list
did not include any elected officials, airport advisory boards, Broward
County airport task force members, or environmental groups.
Representatives of these groups can participate in the public outreach
program for the EIS process at the public scoping workshop schedule for
February 24, 2005, as well as at future venues we have planned.
Ms. Chalifor, if a large number of uninvited people show up at the Focus
Group meetings, we will not be able to accommodate them and we will not be
able to hold the meeting as planned.
Again, these specific meetings are organized so that the FAA can meet with
community-based representatives of homeowner and neighborhood associations
for the communities that may be potentially affected by the proposed
project. We would appreciate you respecting the process that we have set
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up and we look forward to seeing you at the public scoping workshop on
February 24(emphasis added).
Thank you and we would appreciate you passing this information on to your
e-mail list.
Virginia Lane, A.I.C.P. (Virginia.Lanefaa..gov)
Federal Aviation Administration
Orlando Airports District Office
5950 Hazeltine National Drive
Orlando, FL 32822
Tel: 407/812/6331 Ext. 129; Fax: 407/812/6978
NOTE FROM SOS: With all due respect to the FAA,we cannot endorse nor do we respect a process that
is exclusive, not inclusive. The process is not the open,full disclosure process we,as the most impacted
parties, must be afforded. We believe the first meetings regarding the EIS Scoping Process should be
held with the Broward County Airport Task Force,the municipal airport advisory boards,the elected
officials of the impacted municipalities,and so on. To separate homeowner associations out for separate
non-public meetings is part of a divide and conquer approach which is unacceptable.
Additionally,we are very concerned that the Agencies who have been invited to a separate meeting on
Feburary 23rd have received an agenda and discussion outline(which you will find at the web address
below); however, many people have not received any documentation to include those who have received
invitations from the FAA to attend the Focus Group meetings,those who will attend the"public"scoping
meeting on February 24th,some of those who serve on the Broward County Airport Task Force,some
local and county elected officials, many of those who serve on local municipal airport advisory boards,
environmental groups,etc.
The fact that we are still not receiving open,full disclosure,complete and comprehensive documentation
necessary to respond to requests for public comment on reports such as the EIS is a very serious
concern. We should not have to"discover"these reports through our public records reviews, but rather
they should be forwarded to us on a regular and timely basis.
The documentation for the Agency EIS Scoping Meeting on February 23rd (which should be helpful to
those attending any EIS Scoping Meetings)can be found at
http;/Iwww.holly..woodfl_or9t WipdVEISFAA�tr012005..pdf
http://www.hollvwoodfi.or-a/html/g)df/EISReDort-LandrumBrown orgfhtml/pdf/EISReDort.-LandrumBrown 01.200S..g)df
REMEMBER: TOGETHER WE HAVE AND CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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